Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the I bought it because the idea of 10+1 rounds in 9mm was very appealing. (dead serious) took it right back to the store. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. I just dont see the silent u in that. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. Any kind of ammo. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. While the LCP II will accept the same 6 round magazines as the original LCP, it also will not slide lock on the last round with those magazines because they were not designed to do so. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. Solid with FMJ round nose once broken in, will NOT feed hollow points until after a trip back to the factory. The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. Nicer than the price would indicate. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g You got to be a rookie. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. Hey, look As in best gun LOL. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. Ed Brown alpha elite: 3.2. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. (I call the SCCY, my Sunday go-to-meeting piece. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? Granted, .380 pocket autos are not guns that you take to the range for fun. I own a SCCY CPX-2. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg Accurate for cheap junk. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. He didnt even require them to be positive. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. But, in real life event, the trigger want matter. Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Take down the Pico. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Oh shit! As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. Nope. This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. No issues to complain about. But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. Had it for about 6 months now and been to the range several times. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). I can do it blind folded. It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. A bunch. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. Sure you can spend $500 on a Glock or what ever else you want to list but the specs on this gun make it a easy choice and hell I can buy two for the price of most good guns. However, it is pricey and a bit bulkier than some of the others. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! Or did all those voters fly to Russia to test them out? (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). No problems when used within its limits. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Everything they make are just wrought with problems. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). I am a Pocket gun enthusiast. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. CM40 is my summe4 carry. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. Designed to be smaller and more compact than the Nambu 14 for use by armored vehicle crewmen and pilots, the pistol had design I normally enjoy Truth about guns. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. When he says the People have spoken who the heck is that? I doubt he even read the directions. That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. As far as the magazine release, its perfect for my needs. Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. Its that bad. Presenting statistics like this isnt representative of the actual quality of the product, but the opinion of those who voted. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. Basically I hate these guns because I hate these guns, and you should too because I do. This is the closest I have ever been to accusing TTAG of pandering to the highest advertising contributors (i. e. not a SINGLE Taurus gun on here? I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. The sccy is very similar. And I especially enjoy its clever name. You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. I like its feel in my hand. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. Makes me question the authors intentions in this article. I think Jimenez and Lorcen companies went bankrupt. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? Bersa Thunder 5. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. Just my two. This article was amateurishly conceived and executed, even if only judging by the hit-piece commentary on the SCCY. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. Its been reliable since then for me. The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. In a fight you wont notice it. How so? You sound smart. In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? Thats along what I was thinking. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. These are not military combat weapons. The DB380 is a cheap subcompact 380 pocket pistol. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. Only time I tried one I did not like it. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. Mild. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. You have entered an incorrect email address! . Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. It is not made for quick magazine changes. They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. What utter nonsense! Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. Or the Kahr in there? Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. NOPE! Probably ran 150 round through it so far. Split chassis, cracked frames, split rails, broken take down pins. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th I have received grief for it as well. 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