With continuous prayer, we have decided to proceed with her study but with open eyes to the objections you brought up. These are just a few of the dozens of examples available on YouTube and elsewhere of Priscilla Shirer preaching to men. The true bride will always go beyond the minimal requirements. Two of the three best known sources Ive listed, Justin Peters and Aimee Byrd, are Reformed. on that if youre interested. Our faith is rock solid if we have placed it in Godthe unchanging, perfect, eternal, sovereign One. read more, Scripture: Evangelical Dark Web. If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. Romans 4:18. How does God regard false teachers, and how are we to deal with them in our personal lives and families, and as the church? But books and blogs written for women are not what 1 Timothy 2:12 refers to, and its not the same as willingly allowing men to attend (which is something Beth and Priscilla both do) an event where a woman, in an authoritative position, is teaching Gods word to believers, or accepting speaking engagements that are open to men. If so, then she is well aware of what the Bible says about these issues. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. If you are also then do we not have the same Holy Spirit to counsel and teach us? She has no control over who reads her blogs. You must be afraid of some things, or else you will be in trouble. I am curious, have you confronted Priscilla Shirer of this sin. God has not instructed women to preach to or instruct men. :0). I wish this particular writer would have more clearly defined what he means by silence. She is the New York Times Best Selling author of more than two dozen books and has had featured roles in movies like War Room (2015), I Can Only Imagine (2018) and Overcomer (2019). Elizabeth. It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. Also, if you will read the article hyperlinked at the very top of this article, right underneath the title, where it says, If youre considering commenting it will answer your objections- with Scripture. And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals. ), The Treasure You Already Are | Priscilla Shirer | [at Joyce Meyers] Love Life Womens Conference 2013, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why Christine Caine Is at the Top of Her List at the Christian Post, Priscilla Shirer recommends Joyce Meyer, Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, etc., Bible studies on her blog at Going Beyond, Priscilla Shirer speaks at Joyce Meyers womens conference alongside false teachers Joyce Meyer, Lisa Harper, and Sarah Jakes Roberts (T.D. Scripture is very clear that people like Priscilla Shirer who teach false doctrine confuse and stir up evil among believers: I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. To think one can just enter there work into the public domain without criticism, is simply ludicrous! Some of the points you bring up give me pause. But, yes, sometimes I do offer to send someone Im talking to (face to face) links to my articles, other peoples articles, books, sermons, etc., if theyd like to study an issue more. No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. These believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine, and Osteens. and also I feel you need to reach out to her for yourself. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, but in my mind, if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. Going by her recent appearances, she no longer seems to have any reservations about violating the Scriptures that prohibit her from teaching and preaching to men. Why do you think I do not? God knew what He was doing. So we both have been grateful ever sense, me personally because; as her husband she is my most important ministry, so besides Church, we do studies both together and private, and then share them with one another, we also pray together and so on, but i know (because i have learned, and it is also true of men) sometimes women need women.(Titus.2:3-4). Untold millions of Christians over the last two thousand years have studied Gods word, grown close to Him, matured in their faith, and walked faithfully with Him throughout their lives. No, Im not violating Scripture by teaching men when they read or comment on my blog. It is a sad irony that Priscilla Shirer opted to name her ministry Going Beyond, because this is exactly what she is choosing to do right now. I think the best reward for the reader is to take all those views as complementary and related being parts of the same whole system of interpretation. Feel free to e-mail me (MichelleLesley1@yahoo.com) if it would be easier for you. This was very interesting thanks for putting this out there. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil. Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. On October 16, 2016, Priscilla and her husband, children, and mother were in attendance at T.D. 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Ohmygoodness!!!! Finally, I agree we should seek out credible sources when reading news reports and things like that where were called upon to simply believe what were being told, but thats not the case here. Hummm. Though there are others, these are the major doctrinal errors in this video, which is less than four minutes of teaching from Priscilla. AT THE GOING BEYOND SIMULCAST, YOU CAN EXPECT: Bible teaching from best-selling author Priscilla Shirer To gain tools to study Scripture on your own To engage in worship led by Anthony Evans A powerful group prayer experience The opportunity to make an impact by partnering with a ministry None. You are an intelligent woman. She begins most lessons with a story or personal experience, uses these stories to formulate her own spiritual principles, and then adds in a smattering of Bible verses (often out of context) to support her ideas. I KNOW this is your website and if I dont like it or cant relate to or dont understand what your position is on a particular topic~ I have the choice to stop reading. 3. Just put the books aside and pick up His word and study it for yourself. Part 11 - Matthew 9:32-38 - That's When Miracles Happen! As far as Priscilla, I am unsure of this. Yes, thats basically the requirement for salvation, but Christians are required to obey ALL of Gods instructions, including the ones about not joining with people who call themselves Christians yet hold to teachings and beliefs that conflict with Scripture. Also, and I am not downing what you say, as you obviously have many wonderful people reading your blog, these women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. Id like to ask, was Kenneth Hagin also a false preacher, because he dealt extensively with this issue of women preaching in his book, and made several clarifications in his book The Women Question. As a womens leader at your church are you not often asked questions to clarify your personal views? Are they guiding and leading a flock (a church)? Romans 16:17-18, They said to you, In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions. It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. Let me tell you something, if your church recommended War Room, you can almost be certain that its leadership knew next to nothing about Shirer. This title is taken directly from the text; verse 37 tells us that the people were astonished beyond measure. If you carefully examine Beths and Priscillas events over the last several years, youll see that they headline plenty of events that are wide open to both men and women. I have provided you video and audio evidence that Priscilla Shirer has done exactly that, and continues to do so unrepentantly. I had to look these babies up in the dictionary!) if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, (And if you need any help getting started, Ive got some resources that will help you under the Bible Studies tab at the top of this page.) #3 Priscilla teaches to listen for Gods voice. Im not sure if youre referring to Beths inclusion of Catholicism, or both Beths and Priscillas joining with people who subscribe to Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) false doctrine. but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. The original promo video I used for this article has been deleted, {so I replaced it with the one above}, but in the original video, Priscilla goes on to say) Thats one in a million. Go beyond what's familiar. What is your belief regarding Israel and the plan God has for the future of Israel? She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. Also, the small sources dont have skin in the book and lecture circuit game. If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. The False Teaching of Priscilla Shirer on the Here I Stand Theology Podcast, Is Priscilla Shirer a Sound Exegete? Oops! Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? Your defense of Moore and Shirer is based only on your own experiences and opinions. Just got home form a conference defending the faith. They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. Paul is quite clearthat people who preach another gospel are accursed, or damned, and that we are not to partner with them. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. Part 11 - Matthew 9:32-38 - THAT'S WHEN MIRACLES HAPPEN! Though the Bible allowed provisions for indentured servitude, which was a humane alternative to such harsh punishments for failure to pay one's debts, such as d Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you. As Joshua was facing the end of his life, he challenged the people to chose, the choice they would make would define them as a people. Here is a short http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com article on Lisa: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=10843, You can also tell a lot about these leaders by what events they speak at: #4b believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine and Osteens. Since you havent had a chance to question Priscilla about what she was talking about here (or maybe it was revealed in this Bible study? But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. I run into you everywhere man YouTube, Twitter, and now here lol. - Femina Sola Gratia Is she a false teacher? Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). Pastor Chris Rosebrough explains why Priscillas twisting of John 10 to mean that we can hear God speak to us is unbiblical. Yes, Im afraid thats exactly whats happening. He was one of the founding fathers of the heretical Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation movement and a mentor to Ken Copeland, whos also a Word of Faith/New Apostolic Reformation heretic. I would love for you to hang out with us here at the blog and/or on social media (links at the top of this page). Second, almost without exception, every female Bible teacher I know of who unrepentantly instructs men also teaches other doctrinal error (usually Word of Faith, New Apostolic Reformation or seeker driven false doctrine). Baptist. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men, and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. However, under Three Suggestions he mentions biblical reflection, meditate on His word, and Christ-centered silence. Theres too much wiggle room in this article to pin him down on exactly what he means by silence. Id like to see him go back and tighten it up one way or the other to give clarity to his readers. Here are my 2.1. Their focus is on Christian living type articles, not discernment (which is certainly fine, everybody has his own genre). Im not seeing anyone speaking against her except small sources. After a bit of research on Ms. Shirer, Im determined that shes one to beware of. Even if shes twisted. However, from time to time, I get people who comment or send e-mails pretending to genuinely want help just so they can get their comments published and who then proceed to argue and twist Scripture in subsequent comments. It is Gods plan for every Christianto grow to spiritual maturity and intimacy with Him. 5. 15 Outstanding Quotes To Recharge Your Preaching. And how their lives could be changed, too. You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. Im pretty sure some of our ladies are going to ask me where the evidence is that she was purposely teaching scripture to men. Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, From: Choose What is Right: A Study in Discernment- Lesson 1: Introduction. Mark 10:46-53, Denomination: I shared this post on Facebook the same day my new pastor friend requested me. When this is done, I will go to the king, even though it is against the law. read more, Scripture: Again, when the Bible says not to do something, and a person does it anyway, this is sin. Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. Is there some connection between this article on Priscilla Shirer and Israel that Im missing? I really dont want to study scripture with/ from someone who is knowingly sinning by leading His lambs astray. 52-week preaching calendar to help you plan your sermons, Customizable sermon manuscripts for verse-by-verse preaching, Preach with creativity and impact throughout the year, [NEW YEAR] 4-Week Series to kick off 2023, [PRODUCTIVITY] Fulfill your full potential, [FOUNDATIONS] Getting back to what matters most. My wife is grateful because of the resources, and because of what she said is best described as like mindedness,(She is sitting beside me by the way!) Examples: when we but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. But Jesus said unto them, They need not 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own helpful in understanding biblically whether or not someone is a false teacher. 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