Surprisingly, even with all the extra recoil and muzzle blast, this cartridge will not shoot any flatter than most 6.5s. Where the .308 Winchester comes up short, the 6.5 Creedmoor turns on the afterburners primarily because of the 6.5mm bullets excellent sectional density and ballistic coefficient. It combined flat-shooting ballistics with hard-hitting bullets in a package with lighter recoil than the .300 Weatherby Magnum, which debuted in 1944. In general, lightweight bullets driven very fast shoot flatter than heavier bullets with better aerodynamics (high B.C. For long rang range hunting my list would go .257 Weatherby Magnum, the flattest shooting hunting cartridge period, Next the 6.5-.300 Weatherby Magnum, it outperforms any other 6.5 period, The .30-378 Weatherby holds 120 grains of water and outperforms any other .30 caliber cartridge and has the longest point blank range of any .30, including the Lazzeronis. There is no shortage of amazing cartridges that offer dazzling performance at extended ranges. Though the recoil in sporting-weight rifles is a bit much to allow you to see bullet impacts inside . For deer and lesser critters, its a solid 500-yard cartridge. I am no expert, but scholars believe that the 6.5 Grendel was ordained during an ancient ritual in Bill Alexanders secret Temple of Ballistics. But flat? They shoot the exact same projectile, but the 300WM does it much faster. Like the 26 Nosler, the 28 is based on the 404 Jeffery case and will remain supersonic out past 1,750 yards. It's muzzle velocity is a blistering 4145 fps. The 264 Win Mag. Introduced by Remington in 1962 along with their Model 700 bolt-action rifle, Remingtons Seven-Mag was the beginning of the end of Winchesters .264. Since this article originally went live, several excellent long-range big-game cartridges have it the market. is the perfect Goldilocks round. With a recent elevated popularity, due in no small part to the rise of the six-fives, the Grendel is now getting the attention it deserves. To be fair to the 30-378, it murders everything else for flatness way out there, staying feet above most other cartridges and carrying enough energy to take a deer at just over 1000 yards. Prices can be high for match-grade ammo, but Wolf offers extremely affordable plinking ammo with their 100-grain FMJ steel-case loads. If I want to be a King of 2 Mile shooter .375 Cheytac hands down followed by a .50 BMG, if I want to overwatch an infantry squad either .338 Win Mag or .50 BMG, if cost isn't an issue Anzio Ironworks 20mm (yes 20mm), Barrett, AI, or a full up custom build. Oh yeah. Pure drop from the get-go. Still, 2 inches high was all it needed. But with some tuning of the magazine that issue can be mostly mitigated. can handle any big-game animal on earth. and .300 Win. I also like my 6.5 CM I is a very good 1000 yrd gun but when it comes to big game 7mm mag is the way to go, when you are hunting two legged 200 lb game the 6.5 Creefmore is my choice I used to own a .338 win mag and a 300 win mag but got tired of the beating my shoulder was taking from them. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. is the proverbial cat with nine lives in the long-range cartridge market. At the end of the day, your skill and time on a rifle is a much larger factor on how ethical a shot is. To build off of the PSA .224 Valkyrie Upper you recommended is there any other changes needed to a standard AR-15 lower assembly? If you choose to shoot long-range with a .223 Remington, I highly suggest shooting longer, heavier bullets with a 1:7 rifle twist. They usually start at around $300. The password should contain at least 8 characters with at least one number or special character. Check out more F&S long-range shooting coverage, including advice for getting started in long-range shooting competitions, the reason why rifle groups keep shrinking, how Heavey did at Gunsite Academy, and what makes long-distance shooting so difficult. With the ability to handle more aerodynamic bullets than the .270 Winchester or the .270 WSM, the 6.8 Western and its 1-in-8 twist rate allows this cartridge to outperform both at distance. What about the guy who wants to go long with his AR-15? .25-06 Rem The .25-06 Remington rifle cartridge used to be a rare wildcat. Thanks! That's why the three best rifles we have sorted have a 500-yard impact range below 40''. In my opinion, 300-600-ish isn't an unethical shot for those who are genuinely skilled enough to make the shot because people are consistently successful all the time at those distances. Its tough, simple, and in the words of Jacob Bynum who helped with the process, sloppy and stupid, which is meant as a compliment with respect to the rifles ability to digest any .308 ammo, no matter how poorly made, and shoot it well. Now, you might think this cartridge is new and unproven. I hate to be so critical here but when you start a list of "best long range cartridges" with the 5.56 you have immediately started off by being disingenuous. (Yes, our govt. While at the High Bar Homestead with PSA, I was able to stretch their 6.5 Grendel out to 1,000 yards with Federal Premium 130 grain Bergers. It will be passed down to my son and so forth. Swifts 150-grain Scirocco at 3,036 fps delivers outstanding terminal performance. A long-time favorite of snipers, the .308 Winchester will remain supersonic out to around 1,200 yards. Even at a 1000 yard drop, the cartridge range is around 210'', which makes the 26 Nosler perform quite capably at such a range . But a reputation for burning out barrels ultimately doomed the cartridge. Lots of hunters consider the .270 Winchester one of the best all-purpose, short- and long-range cartridges of all time. A popular western big-game cartridge, the 7mm Magnum doubles as an excellent tool for long-range target shooting. If there was ever a cult cartridge, the .280 Ackley Improved is it. The 6.5x284 is a long range cartridge that is gaining popularity by leaps and bounds. What were your extra parameters here? To which I would answer neither the 300WM or the .338. Maybe 250 if the stars align. Some people take their rifle out two weeks before the season and fire a dozen shots, these people probably fall into the 50 or 100 yard category. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. By the time the 6.5 Creedmoor started gaining popularity, interest in the .270 WSM was fading. Yes, you can. It shoots flat and just drops the deer.. Doesnt quite pack the punch needed for long range elk hunting though. Flattest at 1,000 yards Here's where things start to change. Speak for yourself only. I also want to give credit to a couple of long-range AR cartridges that deserve honorable mention. Generally, long-range shooting is pure sport and for sport the effectiveness of the round on target is moot. Ballistically, the cartridge is very similar to the 6.5 PRC, but unlike the PRC it uses a standard 0.473 rim diameter like the .308 Winchester. That includes numerous elk, and more deer than I can remember. In general, lightweight bullets driven very fast shoot flatter than heavier bullets with better aerodynamics (high B.C. BUCK DOYLE. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Why It Made the Cut: The 6.5 PRC is the ultimate open-country hunting cartridge. . So, you get much better performance from the 6.5 PRC versus the .300 Win. Posted January 26, 2017. If this is a discussion on long range rifles rounds and the rifles that shoot them, then the .308 shouldnt be in the discussion. 218 in. guns & All the other factors combined still dont add up to that one huge deterrent. That he us army has recorded kills with a 5.56 using black hills 77 grain ammo at 1800 yards? The .30 Stewart, however, is based on the 6.5 Grendel necked up to .30 caliber. Ammo availability has become extensive for the 6.5 Creedmoor. In 2019, Nosler submitted the cartridge to the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Institute (SAAMI) for approval, and in 2020, you can expect to see Nosler and other ammunition manufacturers offering factory loaded ammunition and even rifles for it. What are some of your favorite long-range cartridges? It out performs the 6.5 Creedmore and the .308. Those are the hunting rifles, see a pattern? There is too much to go wrong and game animals aren't targets or enemies. The 6.5 CM is superior to the .308 Win in just about any practical sense of the matter with better range, less effect with wind, and less bullet drop. Just dont try to enumerate its downsides to anyone who knows anything, because there arent any that matter. It will push a 90-grain Fusion bullet to 500 yardswhich is probably the limit for big game with this cartridgewhile still retaining enough velocity to initiate expansion. I have used it on more big game animals than any other cartridge since 2007. One reason for the .300 Win. Beyond 1000 yards they use either the 338 Lapua or the 50 BMG. The article is "7 Best Long-Range Cartridges: Hit Stuff Really Far Away". To overcome this design limitation, reamers were modified to tighten up the chamber, headspace the cartridge off the shoulder rather than the belt, and lengthen the throat. But the velocity with a lighter grain bullet and the case capacity makes for a tremendous long-range round. Why? Personalize your experience. when it comes to long range hunting I have to stick to my 7mm mag custom made bolt action, an extremely flat trajectory and shots at over 1000 yards are very common. The .30-06 Cartridge Ballistics ), 1) no The one up top is tipped with an 80-grain Barnes TTSX, while the other has a 110-grain Nosler AccuBond. Mag. But when you consider the specific task at hand, the field of options narrows. Prices vary greatly for rifles, but feeding them is a whole different story even if you reload. Among his requirements were that the cartridge for the rifle should be able to kill a 1,000-pound animal with one shot, that the ammunition should be widely available, that the practical field accuracy of the rifle, which should weigh seven pounds or less with scope and sling and be no longer than 39 inches from butt to muzzle, should be 2 MOA, demonstrated by the shooter placing 3-shot groups on a 200 yard target that measure four inches or less. You can even pick it up at your local neighborhood Wal-Mart. Accuracy matters. the flattest cartridge I can find. Mag. During benchrest competition the targets have a paper backer that is moving placed behind them. Oldmarine >>> GO I know you like your Bushnell scope but you should know that they make a lot of good scopes but the one that is favored by many Long Range shooters is the Elite Tactical XRS 4.5 . Now, the .280 AI is finally a SAAMI-approved cartridge, and while ammunition options are sparse, its performance is right there with the 7mm Remington Magnum. Trajectory flatness is a function of muzzle velocity. Learn all the important stuff about handgunswith none of the attitude. Prior this Ive been an old school kinda guy, shooting offhand and making sure I can hit what I aim at out to 300 yards. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I recommend a longer 20-inch barrel to gain as much velocity as possible for extended range. With their Vanguard line you can do it for less than $900. When loading the cartridges the bullets were only seated .12 inches into the cases. Hoping to hear some good things about it too. Q: Ron, I would love to see you do a video on the all-time flattest shooting rifle. As originally designed in 1963, the .300 Win. This "best" list is a list of "best" for the author, others mileage may vary. Nothing wrong whatsoever with the 7mmRM. Survival Survival. Nostalgia for my earliest days in deer camp. Rate it below. Its not all hype. It was also a resounding success and has remained popular with hunters looking to stretch their effective range. His first 5 shots were all hits. Based on the antique .404 Jeffery cartridge case, the 27 Nosler is the first new .277-caliber rifle cartridge since the .270 Winchester Short Magnum, which was introduced almost 20 years ago. Whether you're shooting a break-action, pump-action, or semiautomatic, Sign up for the Field & Stream newsletter and get the latest intelligence straight to your inbox. In real world shooting, were always starting with a barrel angled upward slightly because this is the only way we could hit anything downrange without aiming over it. A good example of a rifle that demonstrates the .308s long-range chops is this rifle I built with Shilen a few years back. Noslers first proprietary cartridge is basically a steroid-monster 6.5 Creedmoor. Snow is Shooting Editor of Outdoor Life, where he oversees the publications firearms and shooting coverage. Any cartridge that is enjoyable to shoot in a rifle is one a hunterwhether new or experiencedwill be more apt to practice with. Want to send it really far downrange? Why It Made the Cut: The .308 Winchester is the ultimate jack-of-all-trades long-range caliber. However, none of these choices are necessarily easy on the pocketbook, with most loads over $1/round. Maximum effective range is out to 1,200 yards, and the round really comes into its own at 800 to 1,000. The 6.5 PRC, 7mm Rem. At least inside of 600 yards. Bottom line, I agree its in our best interest and the animals' best interest to get as close as we can. Here are some examples shot dead flat, meaning the bullet departs the muzzle perfectly horizontally with no sight angle above the bore. Both are great game droppers. I kinda thought 7mil rem mag would be there somewhere. While they are relatively close within 500 yards, at 1,000 yards, the .308 Winchester has 4 feet more drop when you compare a 6.5 CM 140-grain ELD vs. a .308 Win 168-grain ELD. It drops almost 400 inches at 1000 yards and drifts 100 inches at the same with a 10 MPH full value wind. It may be a bit rough on barrels, but this cartridge shoots so flat you probably wont care. If you think thats the product of the latest technology, know that Winchester introduced this cartridge in 1935! That handy rifle is an excellent expression of the subtle nature of the .308. Richard Mann inherent in 6.5mm (.264) caliber bullets. That's it. .224 Valk just needs a new barrel and a new bolt. For that blacktail hunt I ended up creating a rifle with the now-defunct Legendary Arms Works with my friend Mike Hudgins. A Canadian sniper had a record kill at over 3500 yards last year in Afghanistan. Of these the 6mm Dasher is the current champ, in terms of popularity and winning. However, in the 1000-yard game, many different calibers can win. In the old way of thinking that was good because I could achieve that consistently. A .270 Win is one of the flattest shooting rifles that won't beat you silly, but it still drops over three feet at 500 yds (and don't forget wind drift; it's easily =/< to drop, always a big factor). Unless that backer has five distinct holes in itwhich Stinnetts didit doesnt count. There are not many places you can shoot 500 yards. Cartridges like the .338 Lapua Magnum, .375 Cheytac, and .50 BMG have shown incredible performance down range, but they can be prohibitively expensive. I've been toting a T3 Lite Stainless in .308 Winchester for many years. Mag. Death in the Long Grass: A Big Game Hunter's Adventures in the African Bush .by Peter H. Capstick, Dino Paravano, Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders (Volume 1) Paperback, The Complete Guide to Hunting, Butchering, and Cooking Wild Game: Volume 1: Big Game, Horn of the Hunter: The Story of an African Safari Kindle Edition, Use Enough Gun: On Hunting Big Game Hardcover, Pheasant, Quail, Cottontail: Upland Birds and Small Game from Field to Feast Hardcover March 1, 2018, The Easy Venison Cookbook: 60 Simple Recipes for Deer, Elk, and Moose Kindle Edition, 8.5x63mm: A Rimmed Thumper for Heavy Critters. I understand why some hate the round, and its largely the .308 Winchester fanboys. Ive not done the King of 2 mile thing but if I were younger it would have appealed to me. It is a .284 Wichester necked down to 6.5mm, or .260 caliber. We could go into all sorts of great cartridges that frankly its hard to find anything that is a clear cut winner in the group. Mag. Love the caliber. He said stuff. The 223 WSSM might even beat the Swift, although its nearly obsolete already. Ditto some of our fastest 7mms and 300s. These are all with commercial brass available, 300NM, 338NM, 338LM , 375CT , .408 CT and 416 B all shoot very good out to and passed 2000 yards. Perhaps you or other readers here can find the ultimate winner! Esoteric hardly touches on Stinnetts gear and is part of the reason his record might stand for decades before anyone bests it. The key to the Dasher and these other rounds is their consistency. Select what level shooter you are! An added benefit with the .223 Remington is cheap, readily available ammo. Ditto for the .300 PRC, which fixes every shortcoming of the .300 Win Mag and as the name implies (PRC - "Precision Rifle Cartridge") was made for accuracy at extreme long distance. The sky is the limit depending on your budget and what kind of rifle you want. It just murders your shoulder, ears, and pocketbook at the same time drop in feet Shooting at 700 (In Theory) It's a pre-64 and well it's not used much now. The Navy switched to 190-grain Sierra Matchking HPBT's. Charged with Reloder 19 and 22 powders, the round performed well at 1,000 yards during the Navy's accuracy testing with the extreme spreads of the groups measuring 10.79 and 10.68 inches respectively. Underwood Ammos 110-grain Lehigh Controlled Chaos bullet at 2800 fps is another great option. This cartridge is flat shooting from 100 yards out to 1000 in the right rifle, and we think it is likely to become the premier precision rifle cartridge. Im drawn to this new interest in long range. The lack of factory offerings is one reason the 6 GT might overtake the Dasher. The last time a .270 Win. Of course, if you want to know a LOT more about the 6.5 Grendel you need to read the 6.5 Grendel Shootout! Complete with ammo suggestions, capability, rifles, and more. But to choose the best long-range caliber for you, start with your own experience and interests. So true. It sure isn't my spectacular marksmanship. There is no one-size-fits all answer when it comes to the best long-range calibers. All Rights Reserved, My Group Therapy: Shooting Log Book | 100 pages (6"x9") | Record Target Shooting Data & Improve your Skills and Precision Paperback June 13, 2019. One afternoon, after shooting a nice antelope at about 500 yards, I was walking back to the truck with the guide, and we were discussing quarter-bores, with the guide extolling his 25-06, the best of the lot. more do I really need more ??? I've been teaching my dad how to shoot. Mag. When I wrote about the event, many commenters called me a liar for suggesting that a .223 Rem./5.56 NATO could shoot that far. He didn't say Elk or Deer or Hogs or Trolls. Another downside is that the 6mm Creedmoor does not buck the wind, It honestly feels like cheating when you are behind a quality 6.5 Creedmoor. All you need is a magazine for the .224 round and the 6.8 SPC mags do a very good job. That includes the 6 Dasher, 6 GT, 6 BRA, and 6 BRX, along with the 6.5mm and 6mm Creedmoors. Hornady 123-grain SST at 2580 fps. I had my own doubts because I am a bit of a cynic. Not long ago, Team Global Precision Group used the .416 Barrett to ring steel at a mind-blowing 6,012 yards (3.4 miles, 5497 meters, 18,036 feet). Its pinpoint accuracy makes it deadly on these animals to 500 yards and more. The most accurate long-range caliber cant be reduced to a single answer. Why It Made the Cut: The 6mm Dasher consistently wins in competition. .308 Winchester has been around for almost 70 years and has served militaries and police forces around the world as faithfully as it has served competition shooters. I sincerely am ready to listen to reason: Why is the .257 Weatherby ignored in these discussions? On the downside, the Dasher can be finicky with respect to feeding since it is so short and has a steep 40-degree shoulder. The long-time standard bearers are Federals two Gold Medal Match loads, the 168- and 175-grain BTHPs. Besides recoil, the downside is the limited availability of factory ammunition and rifles. They considered the .338 Lapua as an option, but the .300 Win. Effective accuracy range is much different than effective and ethical killing range on game, but that is something to take into account if the rifle will be used for hunting. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. Mag., while having to put up with significantly less recoil. Throw in the extra expense of spotting scopes, expensive scopes and precision rifle builds, time for reloading sub MOA cartridges, etc., and one can see a lot of time, money and devotion are required. It was introduced in 1963 to augment the series of belted magnum cartridges that Winchester based off the .375 H&H. Shoots flatter than a 243- wheich already kicks a 6.5 cm was. The newest addition to the Nosler line of proprietary cartridges is the 27 Nosler. Need to recheck your math when you were talking about the .416 Barrett clinking at 5497m. Hornady Precision Hunter 143-grain ELDX at 2,960 fps. I then went about correcting it for the 300-yard target. We haven't gotten any trigger time with it yet, but I'm hoping to do some testing soon. It's disconcerting to me that this cartridge always gets left out of the conversation. Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. caliber cartridges in 2018 when Hornady introduced it after working with George Gardner of GA Precision on the concept. There are far too many cartridges out there to narrow down, let alone the shooter's need factored in. Brownings 175-grain Sierra Tipped GameKing load has an advertised muzzle velocity of 2835 fps and a very high ballistic coefficient. Not to mention lugging all the equipment and having spotters. Reloaders take notice don't give up on the .308 yet good things to come. To explain the nuances of rifle twist rates, you can read my previous article about, After reaching out to 1,250 yards on a trip to the amazing High Bar Homestead in Gillette, WY, I am now a firm believer in the .224 Valkyrie. With the exception of the 7mm Remington Magnum, cartridges of this diameter have never been as popular in America as they should bemaybe because this was the caliber of the Imperial German Army and the Nazis. The adjustment to supported shooting wont be so involved, but the light triggers may ironically take some work. rating) driven more slowly. Where the 6.5 Creedmoor excels is with its engineering. With a growing choice of ammo from 90-130 grain projectiles and the benefit of a great ballistic coefficient with the 6.5mm bullet, 500+ yard shooting can be almost boring. If you ever take your game at distances longer than 200 yards, you may want to use one of these 3 flattest shooting rifle cartridges to reduce bullet drop and improve your chances at bagging that big buck. Other than some boutique businesses that will load ammo for you, there is currently no factory 6mm Dasher offered, which is a significant barrier to entry for many shooters. Nosler Trophy Grade Long Range, 150-grain AccuBond Long Range at 2,930 fps. (The main exception would be shooting canyon to canyon - you may not be able to get closer) I personally won't take shots that have a time of flight of about .5, .6 seconds so time of flight becomes an issue also. An F-Class shooter engages the 1,000-yard target at the Wendover, Utah, Air Force range (inactive). Been shooting this particular caliber since I bought my first legal rifle at the old age of 18 lol. And to reach out that faryoull need some quality glass, so check out our article on the Best Long Range Scopes. Where? gear. And that light recoil not only makes you a better shot in the field; it also makes practicing more fun and productive. Some of the best loads I have shot through various .223 Wylde/5.56 NATO chambers have been: The .224 Valkyrie was developed with long-range shooting in mind from its inception. While still a great long-range precision shooting cartridge, it is starting to lose ground to newer and softer shooting cartridges.". The 6.5 CM is, While there isnt much of a cheap alternative for 6.5 CM ammunition, Lucky Gunner lists, Like Alice in Wonderland, you can go down a. Click below for a FREE LESSON! keeps reinventing itself to remain relevant. Mag., and .300 Rem. It also has less wind drift and less bullet drop than the .223 Remington or the 6.5 Grendel. .300 Win Mag is your ticket. Steel placed at 500 yards are the bread-and-butter targets for PRS and NRL competition, so for these applications the pipsqueak 6mms are the best. There are many of us who have rifles to attempt to master the art of long range steel shooting. I always favored the .264 Win Mag. Mag. Availability is not the best either, so online buying or reloading may be the best option for this cartridge. From an external ballistics standpoint, it cannot compete with any of the cartridges on this list, but in the field where it matters, it works wonders, and only the 6.5 Creedmoor has less recoil. Generally, traditional Weatherby Magnum cartridges perform slightly better than their Winchester or Remington magnum counterparts. Up until that time, there had only really been two .277-caliber hunting cartridgesthe .270 Winchester and the .270 Weatherbyso the .270 WSM was almost immediately popular. Surprising how many people seem to have forgotten the .264 W mag. Anyway be safe shoot str8 and God bless. It has ample killing power for all but the largest of game, it is easy to shoot well, the cartridge is inherently accurate. It is the responsibility of any hunter to put down game as quickly and humanely as possible with a single shot. Mag Browning Eclipse using 208 Grain Hornady Match Bullets and am having a good time with my new DPMS with a Geissly Trigger and custom Muzzle brake with the barrel cryogenically treated hitting golf balls at 200 yards. Its the little 220 Swift (center) pushing a 40-grain bullet! It happened to shoot the Federal Premium 90-grain Sierra Match Kings very well and hitting a steel torso was fairly regular between myself and my shooting buddy, Kat Ainsworth. bbl. While this may not be the first cartridge that comes to mind for long-range shooting, with an appropriate bullet, the compact .223 Remington or 5.56 NATO is more than capable of shooting over 500 yards with accuracy. Quick story.. Based on the now almost-forgotten .284 Winchester, the 6.5-284 Norma was originally a wildcat cartridge and a very popular one, especially in bench-rest competitions. If youre after critters deer-size and up, the field is dominated by .30-caliber, 6.5mm, and 7mm cartridges, with the best long-range options remaining supersonic out to at least 1,400 yards. In reference to the gentleman saying a hunter shouldnt take a long range shot, what he meant was He shouldnt take a long range shot. Stinnett said he would take the 6.5 Grendel brass made by Lapua and run it through a sizing die until the shoulder is pushed back far enough to chamber. He lives in Western Pennsylvania where he has enjoyed the outdoors, hunting, and shooting for the past 20 years. Ammo prices are a bit steeper than the previously mentioned cartridges, but the, While I was in Wyoming, I was able to test and evaluate the .224 Valkyrie with a rifle from Palmetto State Armory. The third time proved to be the charm. Developed in 2007 by Hornady, the 6.5 Creedmoor has a parent case with the .30 TC, which was originally based on the .308 Winchester. I just think this article was not specifically a hunting article. You must adequately define these currently nebulous extra parameters that lead you to make these statements and pass them off as informative. Some shooters have an intense disdain for newer cartridges. Based on the old .404 Jeffery case, its the same length as the .30/06, which means it works in standard-length actions. still possess remarkable capabilities. It is hard to believe that a .224-inch caliber bullet with a C.O.A.L. Beyond 600 or 800 yards, however, the efficiency of the high B.C. A legacy that inspires confidence. Hornady is loading 6 GT ammunition with 109-grain ELD-M bullets that are available through GA Precision. I have shot my .338LM to 2616 yards at a match. More than enough to be lethal, and it's a speed that is greater than some 9mm handguns actually fire as muzzle velocity. Are going to forget about 6.5 rem mag again? You are not wrong in your thoughts. With a muzzle velocity faster than 3000 fps, it offers great external and terminal ballistics. . That's about 55 Statues of Liberty (305'), not 20. In the East it is rather limited. Also the 300 Win? While precision match loads can be pricey, you can always run cheaper alternatives. None of them will turn you into a trained sniper, but if youve put in the range time and have the skills to stretch it out, these 10 cartridges have the reach and the thump to put game on the ground from the next canyon over. The new Federal Premium, 130-grain Terminal Ascent load with a muzzle velocity of 2825 fps shoots flat and the bullet is tough enough to handle up close impacts while still delivering good expansion at distance. 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