But it never says it was specifically because of pride (as the King of Babel), or trying to be like HaShem (as the King of Babel). At nearly the same exact time, in 1609, Galileo Galilei built his first telescope by learning how to grind his own glass to make his star viewer. Hasatan could have been cast to earth for any sin; but neither the NT nor OT specify what that sin was. Web. With the following day a holiday for many people, this may be a good time to watch this eclipse. It was because we were moving as well as the planets. 03 Nov. 2012. Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated that he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. bears the Light, and with its The Vatican's Mount Graham Telescope was named "Lucifer" by the German team who built it. (Source). This mountain is home to a large diversity of animals that have come up from the heat of Mexico and down from the northern mountains of the Pinaleo mountain range. These narratives have include controlled opposition stories of scientific breakthroughs by Copernicus, Newton, Kepler and Galileo who all had their findings vetted through the Royal Society of England, who validated scientific theory through the 19th century, as well as the Vatican. Firstly, what causes anything to hover? Theres no way that were going to allow this to be done," people said. That treaty required the federal government to settle and adjust the Apaches' territories. <p>Guess What Happens When "They're The ONLY" Game In Town? "There are so many commodities and useful resources in these lands. Fact Check: In recent days, multiple Facebook users have been attempting to link the Vatican to a telescope supposedly called "Lucifer," a name used to refer to Satan in Christianity. (McLeod, Corbin). The University of Arizona built an underground 25,000-volt power line, electrifying the sacred mountain to the great distress of the Apache. "When the white people, the non-Indians, invaded, they assumed the 'moral authority' versus the 'treacherous savage Apaches,'" Riley said. The first two telescopes are small, inexpensive ($3-8 million each) and easily removable. The only answer being that central casting and planning want it that way. The coming of settlers from the East disrupted the Apache way of life forever. 03 Nov. 2012. Tagged: l.u.c.i.f.e.r., NASA, space, telescope, Vatican. Graham in Tucson. * what causes them to move at all? Even incomplete, the project interferes with Native spiritual beliefs. Why would they set up the earliest observatories right at the end of the Dark Ages, that continues to this day some 500 years later, if they were so dead set on maintaining that the Earth was the center of the universe? From the beginning of the Vatican Observatory project to today the existence of observatory and its location on Mount Graham has been a conflict of science, religion, and ecological protection. 1. The land is sacred to Native Americans from the San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation and many other Arizona tribes. The director of the Vaticans Observatory, George Coyne, wrote that efforts to protect Mount Graham consist of a kind of environmentalism and a religiosity to which I cannot subscribe and which must be suppressed with all the force that we can muster.. Although this statement may be true, the San Carlos Apache are not alone in their fight to protect their sacred land. Nevertheless, Congress approved the construction plan. Assemblies who will continue to perpetuate this Lucifer lie, after knowledge of this clear evidence, represent the fool in proverbs. Coincidently, the Latin word Lucifer has the meaning of morning star, and is defined as the following on the Google online dictionary: morning star: a planet (usually Venus) seen just before sunrise in the eastern sky. The task of the commission was officially described as a scholarly and calm reflection, founded on objective evidence and emphatically not a new trial nor an attempt at rehabilitation. The Vatican Observatory donated a radio telescope and loans several exhibits to the park, including an astrolabe made in 1608 and the Mertz Telescope, constructed in 1870 in Morocco. Even with the claimed ownership of the land and the relocation of many Apache indians, the sacred mountain remained protected by the public park service. Also its quite notable these people who were telling the masses the earth was the center of the universe was at the very time and continued to operate their own observatory etc etc The Catholics were the largest persecuters of different cultures from the 1500s on. AZ International Auto Show & New Car Buyer's Guide 2020 Model Year, 1986 draft environmental impact statement, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. While construction of the projects first phase has continued, the entire Mount Graham mountain range was declared eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places as a traditional cultural property in July 2001. University of Arizona, Vatican and Jesuits Name New Telescope 'Lucifer' Housed at Mt. That's where we find peace and comfort to pray in our quiet way.". The Lucifer Telescope, Sacred Apache Land & the Vatican - Jan 18, 2023. L.U.C.I.F.E.R., which stands for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to a telescope in Arizona. Does the Lakota sweat ceremony provide a sense of place? Currently the observatory remains as a working scientific research area that has been awaiting renewal for a permit since April of 2009. The Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) operates the 1.8m Alice P. Lennon Telescope with its Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility, known together as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario By Greg Szymanski, JD April 23, 2010 The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument 'Lucifer'. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment nor can it give official names or nicknames to things it does not own. Yikes! 1999-2012 Christopher McLeod, 1 Nov. 2003. I took astronomy in college and it is not possible for the planets to move in the sky the way they do without the sun being the center of our solar system. Showing this error, however, reveals the fallible nature of many of these self-proclaimed Messiahs and Priests and sends a humbling blow to the heart of their followers. The mexican spotted owl, Apache Trout, Pinaleo pocket gopher, long-tailed vole, and Northern Goshawk accompany the Mount Graham Red Squirrel on the endangered species list for animals residing in the area where the observatory was built. Also why do they refuse to allow access to what is most probably the largest collection of ancient writings books tablets etc. Yes, Peter, Jesus IS the Morningstar and the Light of the world. The Vatican really needed to name their telescope ''LUCIFER'', no matter that the acronym is LBTNIUWCIFUFER??? Ive been to Indian sacred grounds and experienced a few situations to influence my belief. All ongoing and future construction projects by the UA must be held to the standards of NEPA, NHPA, and President Clintons Executive Order 13007. Prior to the appeal, congress had passed an act that exemplified the telescope project from the National Environmental Policy Act and the Endangered Species Act, thus resulting in the failure to immediately and permanently halt the telescope project. Protesters against Mt. May whoever searches here night and day the far reaches of space use it joyfully with the help of God. Mount Graham was one of the first parcels to be placed in the public domain. Placing unauthorized or unwelcomed whatever on Indian sacred ground, like this telescope, or even taking any sort of sacred symbols, down to the rocks and dirt, without permission or a blessing to do so, could be a nightmare, a real life story for a Dan Brown novel and may add to the growing issues facing the Catholic Church. One of Arizona's "Sky Islands," a sacred place to Apaches, has been damaged by development and a controversial observatory. Early Masonic magicians like Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, and Newton, along with their modern Masonic astro-not counter-parts like Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins, hand-in-hand with NASA and world Freemasonry using everything from books, magazines, and television to computer-generated imaging, have succeeded, in the minds of the masses, to pick up the fixed Earth, shape it into a ball, spin it in circles, and throw it around the Sun! Collaborating with the Steward Observatory, the Vatican Observatory built the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) on Mt. L.U.C.I.F.E.R., which stands for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to a telescope in Arizona. - The rugged patch of land known as Oak Flat sits in the Tonto National Forest. In 1852, the U.S. and "the Apache Nation of Indians" signed the Treaty of Santa Fe, said John Welch, a professor at Simon Fraser University and head of landscape and site protection programs at Archaeology Southwest. 2.) Hence, in 1987 the Vatican Observatory Foundation was established. Located on Mt. The Large Binocular Telescope which is not affiliated with the Vatican Observatory is a pair of 8.4m telescopes side by side. Reach Krolat debra.krol@azcentral.com or at 602-444-8490. The church may not believe in this ancient law but its as old as the moon. So it would seem that though the Vatican has held most of the knowledge of space for over three centuries now with all their observatories, they are only in the modern era beginning to exam the teachings of those scientists who changed the course of history and refuted the Roman Catholic Church. Why, when it took until 1992 for the Vatican to pardon Galileo? The Lucifer Telescope, Sacred Apache Land & the Vatican Enjoy this podcast, and so much more Podcasts are available without a subscription, 100% free. A 1986 draft environmental impact statement developed by the Forest Service said archaeological sites were detected within the observatory area, and that the most appropriate treatment of these sites must be determined in consultation with the State Historic Preservation Officer and the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation. The Forest Service also said, Presently no known impact on Native American religious use exists.. Quote: The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. Follow her on Twitter at @debkrol. How can they shift is your question. Among other endangered species in the area is the Mount Graham Red Squirrel, which is found nowhere else in the world. 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