Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. And I sat and prayed. Jared Prayed for you just now. That this wasnt just James failure. You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. I did not. However, there were a number of people in the room who did know him and knew him well. And were like, boy, I hate to say this, but that just felt demonic. Well, because Scripture says you do it in front of everybody. I pray for the man. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. Hes like the whole the whole thing was about resigning. And Dan said it was just so unnerving. There was a spirited discussion of the letters and who should be able to read the letters. Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. But by the middle of day, right, we were talking about how we were clearly going to have to have an elder board meeting that night. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. I dont know how many people had heard of it. That this was all a plot by him that he was vengeful, towards James McDonald. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. And Im just grateful that finally, the board, open their eyes. The airing accelerated the timeline. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. Sandy talked about over the years, other staff members coming to her after meeting with James McDonald in tears, just crushed. Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. Thats what the weight was. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. I dont believe God makes mistakes when creating us a certain sex. But this is a story that just is not going away. The elder board is still in the dark. There was a whole discussion about whether he was repentant and I said, I dont know, hes not repentant. If you hear that from the pulpit, or you hear that up front, I think, if Im sitting, if Im sitting in the seat, I think well, how fast can I get to my car and confess everything that just the Holy Spirit just brought to mind? And they said, I remember Dan telling me that that James slammed his fist on the table. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. None of those charges were looked into. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? To donate, James MacDonald Ministries June 13, 2021 Email, Ed Stetzer Named Dean of Biola Universitys Talbot School of Theology, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Landon MacDonald to Lead Arizona Megachurch Despite Allegations of Abuse When at Harvest Bible Chapel, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. How about that one? No One Knows. . There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. And we got to a Saturday meeting then on the ninth. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. This man has been your pastor for decades. But it was dark. I followed up with this text but Julie did not respond immediately to my request for a comment. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. And he was the elder who insisted that scathing letters written by former and current staff at Harvest actually reached the members of the board. Thank you. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. Thats about my attitude lately. He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. 1) Julie Roys. I followed his ministry for almost 2 decades. Were talking about the difference of maybe a day. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. ARC is one of the largest church planting organizations in North America. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 Do you expect ANYONE to say yes to your question. And I was still on the board. It was a four hour meeting. We all need to do it together, etc, etc. However as I grew in age and hopefully in wisdom, I consulted other versions of the Bible. The Roys Report reached out to MacDonald with questions about the email, which he would not answer on the record. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. I remember praying before the Harvest Elgin campus as a garage, and its a former corporate space. And I said, I understand that. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. They said no, for various reasons. And you know, shepherds, I think of John 10, right, the the hireling runs away, the Good Shepherd stays. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. The picture with deceiver Kari Lake speaks volumes! So then James McDonald flies in, right? . And so I felt relief. Thank you for taking the stand that you did. . I believe the board was deceived by Satan. Christians should stop feeding these people. James MacDonald. And it was it was a battle in the natural, exposing James McDonald, the letters, the articles, everything. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. I remember saying to the larger board, Guys, it is the grace of God that we have these letters. Im Julie Roys. So quick to forgive and people were giving me hugs the next night. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. He has always been a total its all about me. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. I am so sorry to report that he has not changed. My strength is dried up, as by the heat of summer. How much do you make? And you have James McDonald coming in, from the United States, getting off the plane for a little bit, doing a few meetings, which I guess he complained about doing. Yes, I agree. How about it James McDonald and John MacArthur (and the like), how about it? We had to deal with it. . The leaders were brought together. But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. I called him. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. And yet so many still have not and still waiting for James McDonald to do that. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. It is grounds for separation but not divorce., This view is popular in fundamentalist Christian circles. Both are true. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. The Asbury Revival Is Over. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. This story saddens me. And man, if you go back and listen to this morning, morning show I I just, I remember turning on the radio and hearing this, you know, Old MacDonald had a call, e-i, e-i, o This young man had put together it only Mancow can can deliver something the way that he does. And when he sees he cant save it, it sounds like then he was trying to lobby for being able to resign, and a lot of emotional manipulation being used that weekend from from what youve told me. All my legal fees got paid. Yeah. Nah Gary, thats just typical cat behavior for you, with or without Kenneth Copeland. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. Hi. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center to become dean, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while pastoring at Harvest, It has been said, Show me a persons checkbook and I can tell you what he cares about. Social Action, 1964 James MacDonald, the, Christian actor Kirk Cameron on Monday featured disgraced pastor James MacDonald as a guest on Camerons TBN Takeaways program on biblical illiteracy. MacDonald was fired, Mark DeMoss, a man described by Christianity Today as Evangelicalisms PR Guru and a former Liberty University trustee, is apparently spending time with two men, Its been more than two years since Harvest Bible Chapel fired James MacDonald for engaging in conduct . I stepped away from my computer a couple of times. Very loyal to James McDonald. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. This is this is one of the biggest things elders could do. Had they reached all the elders at this point? And when I look back at it, thats what I think. 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Guard your heart and keep it diligentlyfor from it flows the content of your life. A Christian leader, according to 1 Timothy 3:3, should not be "greedy for filthy lucre.". Yeah. I acknowledge my sin to you. And, and the drama begins. So thats, thats February 5, 2019. Her articles have appeared in numerous periodicals. Ministry News. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. That would be acceptable teaching. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. Again, thanks so much for joining me today. And what happened and all the backroom meetings, private conversations and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? And the pain is overwhelming. Makes me sad and understand why his life went out of control. I remember saying we got to pray. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. And I knew that I needed to do something publicly. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. But it happened to me in the meeting where I raised a couple things and James McDonald is like, I dont remember that. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. Church, Ministry News June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. Im not positive on that. Dominican Republic, a resort there and invited their wives to come with them. But one of the circumstances hes talking about, hes talking about something specific where Id stood up for him in a meeting years ago. The devil is at work. Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel filed a lawsuit this month against two ex-members and former Moody Radio host Julie Roys, accusing them of spreading false information about the . She declined. There was just an absolute refusal to rebuke him publicly. And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? It is not an ecclesiastical remedy at least not any longer. Its so interesting. Okay thats what Gods word says. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. Thank you. However, you did sign a letter of unconditional support. . I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. SMH. I agree. And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. No, it wasnt edited. Yes, and I would add that baked into the command for husbands to love their wives is the definition of love in 1 Corinthians 13. This was months months later. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. Good to be here. Thanks for for standing up for what was right. One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. Like so many other cradle to present churched people, all I ever knew was the KJV Bible. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US But he starts arguing process. Thankfully, I had headphones on. In this episode of The Roys Report, former Harvest elder, Dan George, joins Julie to tell the real story of MacDonalds firing. You have exemplified godly leadership and godly character. You know, Ive been here the whole time. It wasnt an argument. Because they stood up to James or they just tried to walk away quietly because they couldnt they couldnt stomach what was going on any any longer. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. I mean, even though at this point, your eyes have been opened. Lets try little role reversal here. And Im just trying to smear him. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . You know, while while I was an overseer, I didnt know it. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. @jamesmacdonald. She also previously hosted a national talk show on the Moody Radio Network, called Up for Debate, and has worked as a TV reporter for a CBS affiliate. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. Not all the elders had physical copies of the letters at that point. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. What Happens Now? Again, James is is now saying, oh, all of that had approval. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. Tell Harvest Church board hows the fruit now? For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Thats thats a much harder relaunch. No, its not how it went down, Julie. If you find yourself unaware of Dan George served as an elder at Harvest Bible Chapel over a period of 10 years, actively serving on the elder board from 2010 through 2015, and rejoining the board in late 2018. Theres 30 men in the room. Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. So lets move on to these letters. . So he did that. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. And this was a spiritual battle. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. Great! James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? So I mean, again, this was round. He should sell cars or computers. To donate, click here. And I just asked the Holy Spirit to show me You have to show me You have to show me whats going on. . Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. I talked to other people who told me of demands that he made for private jets on numerous occasions. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. Right, so now you have this meeting that ends you know, Tuesday night meeting that ends in the wee hours of the Wednesday, February 6. Understandable. Yeah Cynthia. Unfortunately, immature children in grown mens bodies seems to be a thing now. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. His employment is coming to an end. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. Christian Rocker Posts Stunning Response to Recent Apostasy of Christian Leaders, Chicago Radio Host & a Former Bodyguard Say James MacDonald Asked Them to Arrange Murders, James MacDonald Took Millions from Harvest & Now Demands Broadcast Ministry, Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald: My Response. George of course evangelicalism is [anti-Christ] fundamentalism. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. Other posts decried abortion, transgenderism, and Christians who are apolitical or nice.. 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