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Why did you inflict on this suffering on them, on us? Really, that story has been told a million and one times for the last 50 years. So Stanley Milgram actually begins these experiments-. Radiolab: Lucy. Our staff includes Simon Adler, Maggie Bartholomew, Becca Bressler, Rachael Cusick, David Gebel, Ethel Hepti, Tracy Hunt, Matt Kielty, the lovely Robert Krulwich, Annie McEwen, Latif Nassar, Malissa O'Donnell, Adrian Wack, Pat Walters, and Molly Webster. Times. [inaudible 00:06:31], Well not horrified, it was I pretty stunned. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan are having a conversation, and they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? I mean, yes, I did lie about that. He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas.". Birds would just fall from the air. I think you got to answer it, "With him." Within minutes the gas reached the Allied side. Radiolab. But- but there's part of me that says, you know, here's a guy who just wanted to do everything better than had ever been done before. And in the trial, when the prosecutors essentially ask him, "How you came to commit genocide?" With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show about the little bit of bad that's in all of us.and the little bit of really, really bad that's in some of us. Radiolab Society & Culture Science Latest Transcripts Kittens Kick The Giggly Blue Robot All Summer 2.7K views over 2 years ago 41:58 With the recent passing of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, there's been a lot of debate about how much power the Supreme Court should really have. To feed about 30 million people. Well,the experiment requires that you continue. Why does God allow this to happen? with Lulu Miller, and Latif Nasser. He's standing there on the front, pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings, admittedly, it's a ware, but still. No. He claimed they were in the middle of a sex act, he would get distracted, something would happen. ", Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he'd served in World War I-, But 75 percent of the people who worked for him at the institute, they were Jewish-, And says, "This is intolerable. Wore a little, um, uh, pince-nez? And I used to socialize with him and- and his wife. "Oh, you tell me sir, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". I invited him for dinner and as he was in the kitchen looking stupid peeling the carrots to make salad, I came up to him laughingly, gently so that he wouldn't suspect anything. The Green River murders terrorized Seattle in the 1980s. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting at the thought that he had anything to do with zyklon B; but he did. "The experiment requires that you continue.". He figured maybe 1% of these men would keep flicking these switches up to the highest voltage, but that's not what he found. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. This is Radiolab and today talking about? New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". By the ocean of breath twice, I remember I carried your oxygen. And while you're doing that, just give me your finger. No motives. Um, "Demand me nothing. Shoots herself in the chest, and is found by her son. And so, uh, when I went to the party, the party was already in full swing when I got there. He would deny things. Right. And he was someone who had very big ambitions. Go on please. But there's been a fellow, I've been thinking about him for the better part of year, as you know-. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. And as it happens, my father has very vivid memories of investigating the Carol Christensen murder. Today's date Is June 17, 2003. Yeah, I agree with that. The Germans on one side, the French, the Canadians and the British on the other. And it's a craft, but it's a craft with consequences, and to approach it with kind of crazy joy? The subjects range in occupation from corporation presidents, to Good Humor men, and plumbers. He takes over leadership of this institute in Berlin, and he starts hobnobbing with a whole different level of society. When you call someone, "Evil." Go. Nice sky? As we continue listening to the Bad Show on human nature in our neighbors and ourselves, check out the Wave, which we mirrors the natural shape of your body, or the Casper mattress with zone support for your hips and shoulders for better alignment. No, because if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s, you could always go to a public hanging. With higher and higher voltage. The use of it, he couldn't have imagined. And this is was the difference between Kaiser Wilhelm and, of course, Hitler's Germany. Live shows were first offered in 2008. Warning. Well, that's because you- be-because Molly's been in the chair. Now, Haber was Jewish, but because he had served in World War I-. We'll be right back [inaudible 00:31:42], let's just finish this series. This is what totally pulled me into the story. We've got to know now. Well I mean, I know it does, sir. All rights reserved. Well, have you ever been blackmailed the way this woman was being blackmailed? Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. When did he live, and what did he look and that kind of stuff? Members of his extended family did. The fact that he kept on doing it over and over and over again was like, "Come on.". They're not doing something because they have to. Why did you take these women off the streets and wanted to destroy them? That's Stanley Milgram talking about the experiment in a film in case you've never heard of this. We were just enacting an old very famous experiment you may have heard about. Oft have I digged up dead men from their graves and sit them up right at the dear friend's door. I don't think I ever had a fantasy that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? I'm not going to help restore the sense that there is a moral order to the world and a moral norm. In case you've never heard of this, probably have, but in case you haven't, here's what he did. Yeah. You walk into the room, what do you find? Why does God allow this to happen? My point is sometimes when we ask the why in the face of profound evil, I kind of wonder if what we're doing is that we're daring God to show himself. And then, in experiment number four, when the teacher has to hold the learner's hand down-. I'm really proud of Job, he believes in me, and he trusts me in so much, and he has such great faith in me. However, that leaves behind 20 million Germans. Quite literally. "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" But you know, we ended up walking this question around to different people. And Haber has an idea. It's okay to admit this. But this was a moment in German history, he says, when Jews had a decent amount of freedom. So, you don't know. Hmm. This has allowed the world to have 7 billion people. That's it? He just kind of went crazy. Accuracy and availability may vary. Terms and conditions apply. Which is a- a fairly small, you know, a small sort of town. Reviews . Very distinctive looking man. So, he starts experimenting. But the weird thing is that he decides not just to take down Othello, but everybody. Wow. And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. And he hasn't talked about it with anyone until I interviewed him for the book. When I stand before you, judges of Israel, in this court to accuse Adolf Eichmann. RadioLab is supported by Rocket Mortgage by Quicken Loans. That's one of the things we have to know and that's why it's okay to let out. He gets promoted to the rank of Captain. That the earth couldn't support this many people. And you know there's nothing a closet full of clothes to help balance that out. Right, Clara comes from the same town, and they're both secularized Jews. It's a pretty (bleep) thing to miss, isn't it really? We should say that this next section of the program has some references which are extremely graphic and not to everybody's tastes. Really? If this is the singular moment in Shakespeare where he gives you un-understandably evil man. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. This is Jeff Jensen, and he's a reporter in LA. He's such a puzzle to me. And he goes home for a few days. After all he knows what he can stand. Speaker 2: And in the other room, there was a guy, who he called the learner, who was supposed to have memorized some words. If the experiment had to be successful, it had to be carried on.". He's bald, he has a potbelly, he has these pince-nez spectacles, he's chomping on a Virginian cigar, he was always smoking these Virginian cigars and he's wearing a fur coat. He was trying to repeat this master stroke. You're not the first one. Yeah, well. Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. So, I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. Nothing to be ashamed of. And he was wearing a fur coat-. He wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in US history. Then the executioner castrates you, cuts you open, and takes out your internal organs, and then, separates your head, which is put on a post. Now, that right there, slap some quotations around that. And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to-, That says, "There shall be no Jews in the civil service. So, let me just get that ov- I mean-, So, again, the baseline study is the one where 65% of the volunteers-. 1933 comes and Hitler takes over. Continuing using the last switch on the board please. Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. Go on please. It's the experimenter. I think I call it [prince-nez 00:28:23], so I'm not sure. That is if you don't continue, we're going to have to discontinue the experiment. To him, he seemed calm and I left, and went home. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty. Uh, when- when asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60%. And then he starts this period of roaming. I left him, went home. After all, he knows what he can stand. That's right. Outside of WNYC, I think This American Life does as well, and I know enthusiastic fans transcribed Serial.. Only 10% under those circumstances go on. Radiolab for Kids Presents: Terrestrials A show where we uncover the strangeness right here on Earth Romeo y Julieta A World Premiere Bilingual Audio Play. This actually brings us to our first top of the hour, so just to set it up, Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. He, ultimately, spent 17 years searching for this man. She was good to- she was good to me. And to approach it with kind of crazy joy, I don't know. And 91% of the men said yes. "Do you think that more studies of this sort should be carried out?" If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man. David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. Want to talk about bad people in Shakespeare. Shoots herself in the chest. On the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's helped or fed, versus people he's killed, I mean he's fed billions of people. Haber finds himself in a little town in Belgium called Yp-. I knew she had a daughter and-. Thanks also to reporter Aaron Scott for that story. And in the trial, when the prosecutors, essentially, ask him how you came to commit genocide he would say, over and over again-. They will invariably say something like, "They show that people obey orders." Um, I got a little, uh, I- my- this is my dorsal hair stood up when I read the end of this. Yes. And-. Like, maybe he thinks Othello is sleeping with his wife, we're not sure. At high temperature. The experiment requires that we continue. And then, he seemed fine when I said goodbye to him. And- and part of the problem here, and although, once again, we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. When Lucy was only two days old she was adopted by a psychologist and his wife who wondered: if given the right environment, how human could Lucy . It is a fair question to ask what are the conditions under which you or me or any of us could do-. A box of ashes. That he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. This next part's a little graphic. And actually, this wasn't just the German thing. You mean they're looking at 20 million people hungry? And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? Then you're kind of done with them. Necrophilia. If it doesn't show that people are just obeying orders-, All right, let's go on to our instructions. David had always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. And not just 'cause he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. And did you go back to the party then and continue dinner partying for a while? Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. They're going to record it okay. But the generals were not all that convinced? He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. And oddly enough, we came- got a really interesting take on the true nature of badness from this guy. She says, "What happened today?" Here it goes. Natural deposits would be like seaweed or-, You know, you could find it in cow manure or-. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. And he said, "To start, you want to know about bad? Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. Fact is if you don't continue, uh, we're going to discontinue the experiment. Thousands of people have done it before you. These little nitrogen atoms will fiercely hold together, and it's almost impossible to pry them apart. What my father and his colleagues know is that something was done to these bodies. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. Then he goes and, you know, and celebrates that. And he says that's what people wanted. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. It's like playing dirty. They spent the next six months interrogating him, they brought in psychiatrists, and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal, which hasn't. But if looked at from another perspective, there is a sense in which you could celebrate what they're doing. But we thought we would- we would play this show, uh, about a little bit of bad that is in all of us. "Definitely yes.". He would dance around things. And so, 1918 Fritz Haber gets a Nobel Prize, but this is why he's such an interesting guy. This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. I got to tell you, um, I'm not totally comfortable that you are providing all the information about-. This is Radiolab and today we're talking about Well, we're trying to think about what goes on in the mind of a bad person. And today, evil? So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. Radiolab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science, technology in the modern world. The guy yelling, of course, was an actor, and the shocks weren't real. He takes command of them partially, he travels to the front. [inaudible 00:59:22] it's building up [inaudible 00:59:24]. Okay, well actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? This is RadioLab. They reached back to the shelf and they find this Zyklon stuff. The general's name is Othello. No 'cause if you couldn't afford a ticket for a play, you'd seen all the plays, in the 1500s you could always go to a public hanging. I'm not going to go ahead with it. Accuracy and availability may vary. James Shapiro, professor of English at Columbia University. So, I heard this one from this guy named David-. It's about 1880. Yeah let's . She just burst my eardrums (laughs). The reason why he's telling all this stuff is because he has cut a deal. To feed about 30 million people. ", Only 10 percent, under those circumstances, go on. We're going off tape now. The- the leaves would just sort of shrivel and the grass was turning to the color of metal. Finally acknowledging, "Yeah, that's true." I- horrified is- I was- I was pretty stunned. Well, let's talk about Fritz Haber. Or nice chair? Cruelty, violence, badness. Right now get $50 towards select mattresses by visiting casper.com/radiolab and using Code Radiolab at checkout. He would have each subject sit down at a table. So you're saying they were shocking these people because they thought it was worthwhile? Would you really think that this guy's a good guy? Milgram staged the whole thing like it was some experiment about memory and punishment, but of course it wasn't about that. I have a choice, I'm not going to go ahead with it. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning. But I needed to kill her because of that. By the way, that's reporter [Latif Nassar 00:30:59]. Well all right, I'm starting to feel a little bit better about my fellow man. I mean, that was make believe. And if they didn't go on, if they resisted [crosstalk 00:18:11] the experimenter would break out prod number two. That is true. She had something else on her mind. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. Stanley Milgram took electric shock very seriously. You can find out more information about all those guys on our website. Maybe it's all about doubt in the end. I actually did the first thing, but he saw my intentions and ran away." In fact we hate being told. Continue using the last switch on the board, please. "Well why can't you deal with it in a normal way?". So, Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. According to James, he's not the baddest in Shakespeare or in life because ultimately the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. And to this day, they have not talked about that day, and he hasn't talked about it with anyone until I interviewed him for the book. He said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is of course you don't want to do this. He has such great faith in me." I'm [Clemmy Buttonhill 00:26:56], I'm here to tell you about the Open Airs Project, the new podcast form WNYC studios and WQXR, in which people share stories about the classical music that gets them through their lives. That's one of the things that we need to know. And to make the problems even more annoying. Direct your voice toward that microphone in the room [inaudible 00:20:33]-, So they sit down in the chair thinking, "Wow, this is really important. And he finds her actually still alive, with the life about to run out of her. Yeah. Search metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search radio transcripts Search archived web sites Advanced Search. He didn't really want to cop to everything that he did. Or does everybody at some point have something dark in them? It's very important because if you ask university undergraduates what does the Milgram study show, they will invariably say something like "They show that people obey orders" okay? Horrified like, "Oh my God, my students are murderers?" There's you, and there's two other participants. All right. But harbor saw it as a wonderful success, and wished that the Germans had been better prepared to exploit it, because he felt they really could have made a terrific advance if they had had more confidence. No one has a monopoly on bad. Let me- let me jump just, uh, a quote in front of me. A liquid that has captured the nitrogen right out of the air. This is actually mean to be bad anyways. ", In Titus Andronicus, there's a character by the name of-, There's a moment in the play when Aaron gets up on stage, looks at the audience and says, "Let me just tell you the kinds of things I've been up to recently. And-. Scattered One dead dad. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues-. Okay. And he is celebrated for it. Probably have, but in case you haven't. So, at a time when there are people all over our country eyeing other people all over the country and thinking, "She's bad. Natural deposits would be like seaweed or-, Actually two nations in South America went to war-. Just trying to imagine that. And my dad said, "I don't want to talk about it." Okay. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell, and it becomes zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. Now, we don't actually know if he threw a party. And when you stick a seed like weed seed in the ground-. [inaudible 00:59:42] Christensen. It is, arguably, the most significant scientific breakthrough of them all. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. in the next room just because they're being told to. And they would circle yes or no. He knew about it. There's trench warfare. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. Because this room's echo-y. And even when they do say yes, even when they go along with the experiment, as you can see in the film. There's- there's a lot of-. ", Yes I did need to kill. The leaves would just sort of shrivel, and the grass was turning to the color of metal. Sounds insane. Radiolab is supported by Audible. He did this experiment a bunch of times in a bunch of different ways. Whether it was feeding, or killing, or-, And he does. So these are some word pairs. We will begin with this test. Some people describe it as a cloud, and then others describe it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land, and it's just sort of approaching. We were just enacting an old, very famous experiment that you may have heard about. And if they still were resisting or struggling, they'd get prod number three. It's called Too Much Information. But if they were prepared to do that, and I suspect a lot of them would, um, then we'd say these are people who really believe in science. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. I'm not saying a word. And it's moving at about one meter per second. So basically, at 6 p.m. on April 22nd-. And actually this wasn't just a German thing, a lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people on the planet, at that point, that maybe we were maxing out, that the earth couldn't support this many people. The prods. It gets bogged down. So, he ends up admitting it. The son, eventually, after he emigrates to America kills himself. In other words, nitrogen has really strong attachments to itself. Imagine they really had to administer shocks to themselves or something. Meanwhile later that night, the other side of town. And he throws himself in one of the central issues facing Germany that at that time. I don't know, I would rather have scientists who carry doubt with them as they proceed, I-. What you know you know. Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. And the rough statistics are that half of each of our bodies contains nitrogen from the Haber process. They reach back to the shelf and they find this zyklon stuff. And then, she said, "I actually did this. They're not doing something because they have to, they're doing it because they think they ought to. What does it actually mean to be bad anyways? And later that night after the party Haber takes a bunch of sleeping pills 'cause he's asleep, um, and she takes his service revolver. A liquid. Fritz Haber's a professor, small university, he's working with chemicals; it's about 1880. Of course, normally you just have one experimenter who's giving you these instructions. Now we're seeing about 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year. Let's begin with this story from our producer, Pat Walters. You're telling us all this. Hi, my name's Josh and I'm calling from Harlem, New York. So he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning, and he leaves Germany. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. I dated her several times a year. Even past when they were screaming in pain. But we ended up walking this question around different people-. Clara, also from Breslau, also from a Jewish family. Leaving his son alone with his dead mother. Every time that guy got the word wrong. It just that-, Yeah. Do we know? Our- our friend. Why did you do this?" It's called Too Much Information. ", Now you're saying actually that you could read that very dark fact as being actually evidence of something quite-, Well if you dressed up, and if you just had some minor variance to the paradigm you could, presumably, make this up. And it's kind of surprising. ", "Set deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench, you quench with their tears. Right. What he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. Many of them after they were murdered. That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. About; Blog; Projects; Help; Donate An illustration of a heart shape . Said, "Deadly enmity between two friends make poor men's cattle break their necks, set fire on barns, and haystacks in the night, and bid the owners quench them with their tears. That's what we're heading towards. Because it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of humans' latent capacity for evil. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. I'm going to resign.". The subjects are 40 males between the ages of 20 and 50. And he is celebrated for it. She was a- I knew she had a daughter in the last [crosstalk 01:01:03]. So, how do you feel about him now because I don't know I can't help but feel bad for the guy? And that was a question that had haunted my father for decades. So the subjects seem willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say, "It's an order.". You know, on the other hand, I mean, if you look at the grand calculus, people he's he-helped or fed versus people he's killed, I mean, he's got fed billions of people, I don't know that you could entirely call him bad. Like, you can't throw that air onto a plant (laughing). Alex Haslam, professor of psychology at the University of Exeter. 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