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Group. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. [3] It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ We will be taking time to understand more about our international fans to ensure this never happens again. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. But this often means the backlash is swift and severe anytime she puts out new content. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. It was laughable because a writer had a compilation of problematic things that idol groups did and you can very clearly see the double-standards people have for boy groups and girl groups (even the writer herself). Its easy for us to do because we arent in their position, I know we like to believe that we would be 100% perfect celebrities if we were given the chance, but we havent been in the spotlight for 10 years (Im sure I would have messed up far more than some of the members have over 10 years). They're open-minded and extremely kind people. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Yes I should have included more context. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. Hwasa's most recent callout stemmed from her latest comeback with the track 'Maria', a song that delved into her own struggles with mental health and being on the receiving end of severe hate. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotRenderEnded', function(event) { Why? The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. I don't think anything they have done has been malicious, however it was a product of maybe not being knowledgeable of what may be considered offensive to others. Daily persecution? She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. omg lol at everything written under heechul. Another misconception I found was about Hwasa and how shes the devil and sooo racist. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. Kissed Yewons thighs on We Got Married while carrying her on his shoulders, Persuaded Jackson (GOT7) to accompany him in going into the girls room without permission and rifling through their stuff on episode 45 of SBS Roommate, thanks for not defending the other stuff I guess, okay this is actually the last post I just find it hard to sleep when I dont resolve stuff, An Apology For the Super Junior Masterpost, I wasnt trying to paint suju as bad guys or anything I honestly just wanted to help the people whod be sending me asks, sorry to bring this up again but a few more people reblogged it. The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. Posts: 337. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. Mamamoo - Solar. },false) She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. The thing is, it is not just another joke. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. In the boy groups section, there are fans defending them for everything and even saying things like, "Come back when ___(male idols)__ abuse people, then we'll talk about them being 'problematic'." That obviously didnt work too well. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . They have been affectionately dubbed festival queens as they attend a great many every year, always ready to hype up the crowd and turn every event into a Mamamoo concert. }) Threads: 0. She embraces her skin and body, even though it doesn't fit neatly within traditional notions of what is considered 'ladylike' or 'beautiful' according to South Korean standards and prefers to pen songs about empowerment. But their fans always informed them about their insensitive actions and Mamamoo always immediately apologized. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. Villain. The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. heechul just wore a scarf on his head - thats not how anyone wears a hijab properly and white women have been doing that since like the 40s. They are also one of the very few groups to have not only have won an Immortal Songs episode, but won three separate times with Backwoods, Wonderful Confession, and The Dance In Rhythm (this is typically something only done by veteran singers, as idols competing have to win over an all-age audience). Thank you~). This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). In this video, they wore blackface. Mamamoo is perhaps most widely-known for writing their own music, their electric stage presence, and constant ad-libs often thrown in to make each stage as unique as it can possibly be. It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 2. or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. }) Mamamoo are good, genuine people. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. Thank you everybody for everything! i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. Joined: May 2022. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. MEAWW brings you the best content from its global team of Im still slightly dubious because I dont have the whole video and Im a cynical person but I would like to sincerely apologise for any misinformation I have spread, as it is honestly not what I intend to do with this blog. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Probation Faker. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I dont really want this published but Im Korean and I just watched the SISTAR video and the translations are pretty accurate, Hyorin was trying to say how bora has all black fashion and her hair and black complexion adds on to it, and I felt that too (soyu was trying to suggest that hyorin had darker skin than bora so hyorin shouldnt talk about anyone elses skin color) so hyorin was like yeah but at least I dont wear black clothes like bora! We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. They make a difference. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. Red Velvet too. Its quite a big responsibility looking after this blog and Im not sure my wellbeing can take that on top of my workload and personal problems. ga('create', 'UA-67136960-15', 'auto', 'ads'); One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. eventAction: 'click_ads' A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. For the segment, the three followed outfits . It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. #AskHwasa. That crosses every sort of line. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. problematickpop:. One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. Some people are a bit skeptic of whether or not I actually like Super Junior, which I can understand, but I would like to clarify that I do. pg.acq.push(function() { I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. Yes, I should have included things such as dates. Their sound is diverse, but can best be described as a mix between jazz, retro, and R&B. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. Yes, I should have checked the links. That doesnt make it okay and it doesnt mean it cant be just as harmful, but considering they are nearly always the victims of such colorist comments, it is somewhat different to when they come from somebody else who is unaffected by them. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. "Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo," read one tweet. I dont think they take care of their bodies well, Performed with Boom, while he was donning blackface, Called N from VIXX fucking trash among many other things, sneaked into a room in which girls were sleeping and touched them, I do not wish to acknowledge homosexuals, that scenario must have looked like a drug deal., Implied negative things about Goo Hara dating around a lot, If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Their members consist of Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, and Hwasa, with Solar being the oldest and leader of the group. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. So i don't usually dig into controversies but I couldn't help bumping into a few recently regarding Mamamoo. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. What are your thoughts? I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. ourbridgeisforever:. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. }); I promise you it wasnt a group thing. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. : ) : ) Wow! Yet she's okay with that. They could learn about Korean values and customs online, but they'll never truly understand the severity of it because they're not from that culture where it's significant. hitType: 'event', If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. Goodbye! New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. And this links back to other instances of Hwasa being called out for cultural appropriation, the most recent being her wearing what appeared to be a traditional Nigerian outfit on the MBC show 'I Live Alone'. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. It's even harder these days.. anything can be taken out of context for example, they're banning "Baby It's Cold Outside" on the radio because some people feel the lyrics suggest date rape what a load of BS. #1. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on their controversies and I'll admit it hurt to read so many people hate on them since I was with them when they debut and immediately fell in love. And the answer is simple: Hwasa has been their scapegoat for years now. For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. This thread can't even agree on what Mamamoo did or did not do and yet y'all want to drag them into Blackpink's problematic sh*t to divert the attention, y'all are a damn mess. Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. But seeing these articles faze me. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 1. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. This was such a good response. ga('ads.send', { As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). It then grew and grew until every day Mamamoo was receiving complaints about their dancing, calling their vocals fake, and most of all, attacking their looks and hygiene. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. They apologized. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy kpop stans w/o any recipts https://t.co/rBMH79ZvlD, HELP i dont like hwasa but some of yall going a little to far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too ngl i let out a couples laughs tho#AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/GbxXzX6Fna. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. 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