However some say they are not meant for 'off road' driving. There are different floor plans for beds, either a fixed double (lift up storage) or some floor plans can convert to a double bed (our 2B Aliner did). I have never liked the slide out sofa bed on one model, but some others do. Probably the worst aspect of the doubles is if you are sleeping duo the person on the inside has to get out over the other one during the night or the other person has to get up too, not good on cold nights, lol ! They do have plans with single beds, either permanent or convertible. Thanks it does sound easy but thanks to some great advice on this forum we should make the right choice. I think it might be the fridge. Our suspension is pretty tired (2004) so after years of uming and ahing we're going to upgrade the suspension and redo the ATM certification. There have been a couple of cases of people raising the roof in high winds with the rear facing the wind, when the top (larger) side of the roof is raised the roof has been caught by wind and flipped outwards, breaking the bungee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0V6ex6wSs, 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto - 2008 23ft Golden Eagle HunterSome people feel the rain - the others just get wet - Bob Dylan, Hi Kathy, There is a club, which is called Avan Club of Australia and there are a couple of people who have invented lifters. Cruiser is the more compact length-wise; Cruiseliner features a large front storage boot allowing you to take away all your holiday essentials. You can buy airbags that will lift the roof at the touch of a buttoncosts about $745 and was featured in the last Avan Club magazine.See the link belowlast page.Good Luck.EDIT club link removed - PM me if you want me to email you a copy of the advert. This trailer may have the two lower panel gas springs reduced to 50 pounds so a bit of lift is required by the owner. Due to the crushing weight of the new panels (with new strong factory-metal springs) the owner wanted to start with four each 75 pound force springs because the (bathroom scale) measured weight of 30 pounds at the end indicated that 100 pounds of force was needed at the point of application. What was missed is that the force when compressed is not 75 pounds. It raised based on the design characteristics of the gas spring to as much as 50% higher. So where she needed 200 pounds to raise the roof panels--she was seeing 225 pounds with the initial installation. That is why you see these panels rise on their own! ?His alternative was to design a see-saw arrangement to assist the lift. Further details in the disclaimer. Yes we did accidentally leave the switch on. I've had two poptop campervans in the past, along with a poptop caravan, but the Avan series of campers are totally different arrangement to any of these. WebWe have a 2016 Cruiseliner and laying in bed at night we can hear water dripping. Drive away price is inclusive of all on road costs. They can be stiffened up to do it. It has an on/off switch. Here is a link to the grand roof raising ceremony to the most recent US older A-Frame trailer that had these installed a week ago: So just replacing the factory springs could destroy your roof panels. No worries Hans, I nearly got caught a couple of times both putting up and pulling down in windy conditions. When I called them they were closed for several weekdays ,when I eventually made contact with them I was referred back to the Manager at Campbellfield who after discussing problem , he gave me a date to bring it in to fix it under warranty. Find your local Avan Campers, Caravans & Motorhome dealer. CRUISELINER ALINER Avan SPORTLINER A van Tasmania May 11th, 2018 - electrical wiring running On the other hand, a friend of mine kept his at the tyre pressures recommended by Avan and his tyres shredded part way around on his Around Oz adventure. We have our Avan It will be a bit limiting not to have that capability with the Avan when we want to get off the beaten track. Can I suggest you join Avaners 2 sites on Facebook where a whole lot if Avaners are happy to help! Evidently there's an derogatory term of a 'Man' look that has been applied to me from time to time :) In my unit the extension cord is hard wired so can't be tested by me. There also seems to be an increasing Police/Road Authority interest in the overloading area. WebI have not picked up my Avan Cruisliner at Nowra yet because we have had so much rain. If we're bushing it for a while we carry the equivalent of a second tank in Jerry cans in the car and depending where we're camping we usually can get another fill up if we go somewhere where there's potable water. Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age). Transport has no borders. Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Bought avan despite salesman unable to answer the most basic questions about van. That is interesting what you say about the tyre pressures and maybe the reason is as you have suggested. There are various Roof Lifters available a previous posters have mentioned. Keep away!! ie water, food, clothes etc. Now with my circumstances sadly changed I am keen to tour country regions in all states of the outback, (I detest city driving) My next step begins with some 4X4 training courses next week. Camper Trailer. Driving me crazy! The Avan Club of Australia is a great organisation. I just wanted to mention tyre pressures, Avan stipulate very low tyre pressures (or did) I don't know if this was to stop damage from vibrations, however it was much too low. I put my tyres at a pressure recommended by tyre retailers and had no problems with the originaltyres going around Oz and they looked like new when I swapped them for light truck tyres.. Govt. I havent joined Avan club yet but at $30 initial joining fee it wont be a burden given the knowledge base available on how to jobs. We currently use a softfloor camper trailer, that is built like the proverbial brick outhouse, to which I have fitted shockies, 10" electric brakes and a set of 16" sunraysia wheels and tyres the same as fitted to my tow vehicle and it will follow just about anyplace the Troopy can go. Driving sensibly and not Overloading the van also help trememdously., If you are not prepared to do the odd on the road bit of maintenance or repair, I would steer away from an Avan., -- Edited by elliemike on Monday 2nd of November 2020 09:06:33 PM. Here is one NSW break away Avan group that has all types of AvanRV'seligible as members, see; In particular see their Avan camper trailermodifications shown here; http://www.sccavanners.com/modifications.htm. That upgrade might help. I can't comment on a water reservoir's impact as I've never had one. If you look at this A'Lite A'van, you will see where it has had gas struts fitted to help raise the roof. Just one problem .. the water pump??? JavaScript is disabled. , Due to the overwhelming negative responses everyone has passed onto me regarding the AVAN it is DEFINITELY NOT a consideration off road option for me. By default it's also a stone guard :) Hope this helps :). Easy job. I did have attachments at the bottom but not necessary with the attached wooden bead. You could get the new car home and find you can't get inside it without exceeding GVM with the van attached. When the finance was declined he refused to refund me. I would never have taken it "off road". I contacted Avan and was told that the foam is 3/4 x3/4 h/density..maybe I've just purchased a 2003 Avan Cruiseliner in very good condition.Lifting the roof though is heavier than what I can physically manage. I'm a tall,active, fit woman but I reckon weight-bearing exercises are a lot easier than this! It's a great club by the way and only people with pointy heads are eligible . But with that tank full there's half of the vans available load without the innerspring mattress, bedding, full gas bottles, water in the other tank etc. We had a Avan WA club workshop over this weekend and changed the springs on one of our solo members Aliner. Contact your nearest Avan Camper Club and ask when they are having a meet up. On inspecting the window from outside, I saw that thealuminium rivets holding the hinges on top of the window had worn through and all three hinges had nothing holding them except for the lower window locks. If I had turned out of the carpark into the wind I have no doubt that the window would have ripped off and would have gone over the cliff into the drink. 3 people. G'day Mike, thank you very much for the idea's/tips on replacing the foam strips and the links. http://www.aroundoz.com/a_clinic.htm Another interesting site. Unsealed roads for an Avan are a no no!, Thank you for all your experience and knowledge and responses. I might It is secured by very short screws.A curtain fastener fell offA screw to hold the gas pipe up underneath the van was missing.The two vents were warped. Thanks for the advice, the caravan show is on in Brisbaneearly june i'm going to have a good look at the competition, that waywe can make a more informed decision on our investment. Just purchased the Avan Aspire 555 from Nowra. Below. Until we bought the Avan we were towing a Cub Weekender that weighed around 500kg and we were getting somewhere around 11-12 l/100kms I think, although we didn't tow it that far before we bought the Avan. So this method was the last resort and it does work and very well as you can see at the above link. If they can do this, wouldn't that be similar to what would be needed for the "A" Van ? I have difficulty getting the hooks back in place to hold it down. I think it Ours has never been off the bitumen. The awning also was not properly installed as the led lights were not wired in. That's only 60 odd ks but with the extras in the car it keeps us legal. You would get a lot of help on their Members Only Website when you become a member. Also is does the damaged foam cause a problem or is it cosmetic or may cause a problem? Thanks guys for all your comments and feed back. Hi Alan, there has been a lot of online conversations of late around the 'baggage' allowance. Govt. Charges. They have known about this issue for at least two years and yet continue to promote a van with air conditioning knowing full well it doesn't work in a Cruiseliner.A-van keep referring back to the retaile. came back and said he couldn't find out that day, I said I would leave caravan I was told no room will have to take it back home and they will ring me , 6 weeks later no call and nobody knows. Avan cruiseliner Ducted A/C will never work as it should. The air conditioner is not large enough to cool the van. The van volume is quite small and has a 2.2 KW air conditioner fitted as standard which is sized correctly but in practice does not work. Though he knew I did not have finance he told me that it didn't matter, that I just had to place a $3000 deposit on a van. What is the best way to remove the old foam seals on an A'VAN Cruiseliner before installing the new foam. Perhaps take your van to a strut fitter and see what they recommend. Can't help you with off-road mods to an Aliner. Hi Tina, that is a simple one to fix. However, I am puzzled about what is written on the compliance plates. I think you are right. Wouldn't they be able to adapt it somehow ?. There is one in each corner. 13's from a petrol is quite good, my old vx ss avg 13's not towing and babying it! , I would certainly recommend joining the Avan Club of Australia http://www.avanclubaust.org.au/479/Home/. I don't think so because the lifting height is too great, I would guess around four feet and only at the centre. How do you stop the top roof domes from coming open during travel? Your lights won't only work on 12v but also 240v when you plug it into say a caravan site. Were the best Subaru Forester Owners Forum to talk about the best years of the Subaru Forester, modifications and reliability history of the Subaru Forester. What I need though is something that can handle some offroad camping and would need to get one that has the upgraded chassis/suspension. The standard unit carrying load Avan applies is: Single Axle; 300kg. Do I need to replace the internal charger? What some consider OFF ROAD is normal travelling for others. Promises broken, lied to and delivered a brake defective dangerous vehicle. Mitsubishi Outlander and rear end tent. http://www.sccavanners.com/modifications.htm. They usually stock a range of self adhesive foam strips of various densities. Thanks again and enjoy your trip. Recieved bunk ladder from factory with an appaling message on the package (and also a part missing from the ladder) Steer clear of this company, i wish we did. All this need attention before taking the van onto the Dirt or encountering hundreds of Klms of Corrugations, Our van has been modified to do these sort of trips. I leave in a weekon my first solo trip sowill feel much more confident if I have a solution to this before I leave.. This is a public forum presenting user opinions on selected products and businesses, and as such the views expressed do not reflect the opinion of ProductReview.com.au. the reason why the spline strips on the butterfly handle is when you don't open them for a while the roof vent lid sticks to the black rubber and if you keep trying to put pressure on the butterfly handle it strips, you should always open those roof vent lids when the van is down when they have been closed for a long period. The tare and tow ball weight is only a guide and will change Hi, I am just doing some research regarding Avan Cruiseliner or Bush Pack Aliner Campers and the do's & don'ts when considering them as an towing option. For Avan Nowra once the deal is done service response in our instance is non existent. Retired Engineer, ExPark Owner & Caravan Consultant.. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you search on the net for PRESSURIZING Caravans or something similar you will find pictures and articles about this subject. 4.44m. !, "The problem with doing nothing is not knowing when you're finished" - Benjamin Franklin. As I am a female solo traveler subject to the environment the canvas camper trailers (which would be ideal) are not an option for me. Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age). Drove to BorderVillage but no mechanic there or help, and at Eucla the mechanic was playing golf on a bush gold link somewhere (not the NullaborLinks) and was not expected back for some time. When I got to the border inspection they made me undo all the ropes and lift the roof a bit so they could inspect inside (bummer), the girl inspector crawled inside the partly open roof to check the fridge, at least I didn't have to lift the whole roof and only had to re-secure the ropes. As a ex Avan owner try standing near the middle and close to front of the inside, make sure the sides are already down and push up on the front section roof. I am now currently speaking to the ACCC and trying to get this resolved to get my money back. The numbers from AVAN vary. Body Length (Exterior): 4440mmInterior Length: 3615mmGarage Length (Overall): 5765mmTravel Height: 1720mmInterior Height: 2440mmWidth: 2075mmBall Weight (Approx): 100kgTare Weight (Approx): 940kgBerth: 3, Body Length (Exterior): 4440mmInterior Length: 3615mmGarage Length (Overall): 5765mmTravel Height: 1720mmInterior Height: 2440mmWidth: 2075mmBall Weight (Approx): 100kgTare Weight (Approx): 940kgBerth: 2. Welcome and safe travels. Next stop will be Consumer Affairs VIC. Dougwe, yes the upgraded chassis/suspension would be a minimum I think also, and I did have a look underneath and agree that the axle is still a bit low. We have just purchased a 2007 avan hard roof pop top. Yes it was smaller but build wise the same. A TVAN is a great up market off-road Campertrailer. ProductReview.com.au has affiliate partnerships. Someone should be held accountable. I took the battery to Battery Workd who kindly replaced it after testing. The voltage, when we left was 12.6v, and when we returned, it was 4v.The new battery will not hold its charge.I suspect there is something about the design that drains the battery through the solar charger? Thanks for the links too, I'll peruse them over the next few days. Its driving us crazy ! Thethford N304M3 model, but its cooling just fine and there,s no water in the drip tray. It cools the van by one degree. Nissan Xtrail and despite having a heavy duty towbar the sticker inside the door says Automatic 1300kg towing. Although smaller than bigger A'van models I can't see why it would not work with them. My forward panel looks ok, however the rear panel definately needs to be replaced. This is the hooks on my pop top to hold it down. Can you advise what tyre pressure we should have when on road travelling for our Golf Camper - Bush Challenger 4 - its been a couple of years since we have been on the road :). DOUG Chief One Feather (Losing feathers with age), TUG.2014 Holden LT Colorado Twin Cab Ute with Canopy, DEN. 2014 "Chief" Arrow CV (with some changes). Dealer offered to fix defects with silicone. Age is an attitudeNOT a condition. Any suggestions/tips appreciated. (inside/lower edge of L shaped aluminium facing down when closed and latched). Its attached under the aluminium strip above the boot hinge (bolted and silicone). (see below link). Was very happy with our 2005 van but will be looking elsewhere due to the poor construction . Some more than others. -- Edited by Brian Hovander on Monday 8th of May 2017 12:32:28 PM. After numerous personal contacts the flyscreen has still not been replaced. it is advisable to discuss with your Avan representative. Please check with your dealer prior to purchase. The roof panels of this unit were reconstructed with heavier material due to the replaced 4 huge original springs destroying the original roof panels. Then gas springs were installed sideways that blew out the ends--not a good design. The hose fuses in our M6 are under the dinning table seat. They all have their little problems. General disclaimer: All third party trademarks, images and copyrights on this page are used for the purpose of comparative advertising, criticism or review. ALKO IRS standard axle. to figure out how to deal with this situation. 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